Possible Preface for @ReaLKarl_Marx

It seems the entire world is caught in a paradox: If they really did say it first, then how come i am quoted several months and eve...

Saturday, August 13, 2022

Thoughts on Political Economy and Communist Idealism Continued:


"Oh, young Vasettha, How they Labored and Fought over this building and look at it now"
 "Oh, young Vasettha, How they Labored and Fought over this building and look at it now:"

I.

 It was recently reported that worker productivity is at an all time low: what could be the cause of this phenomenon ? Over employment?.... Even Sir Thomas De Quincey himself fails to properly enumerate and distinguish between Use Value as a purely Ideal Want & Desire and Use Value as the satisfaction or perceived satisfaction of some "Material" aim--One even begins to wonder if anything exists at all for De Quincey except the "Material" --in the case of Ricardo's diamonds it is presupposed that its value corresponds to supply , or its scarcity , but that it contains little or no inherent --- More on this Later -- Use Value ---: Here De Quincey steps in to assert that if it in fact had no use value, then there would be no buyer --because after all why would i buy something i have no Use (or Desire) for?---but as stated still leaves open the possibility of Supply Scarcity leading to or creating demand qua Use Value ---: Because , after all, if Capital can take on different forms , e.g. move from the form of commodities to money ---in which case the buyer's Desire is merely directed towards the satisfaction of some "Material" aim imposed upon him, viz., his desire is in fact merely a product of a Diamond's Scarcity : and his apprehension that by virtue of its scarcity , he can make a quick buck : his ultimate aim in the satisfaction of "Material Needs" (no other reason is postulated for the buyer's demand by De Quincey except merely that without the existence of this Demand for Use Value, there would be no transaction in the first place); In the second case, he provides us with the Example of the musical snuff box, that only becomes desirable to the buyer in supply scarcity, and only secondarily does it alleviate his "mental distress", just as a drug would do, and so once again, is one and the same with "Material" or perceived "Material" satisfaction : as it eliminates some sort of "physical pain": but does it stimulate in a purely Ideal sense ? : And what of Wants and Desires, such as the desire for spiritual salvation, not rooted in the accomplishment of some "Material aim"?, a pursuit after ideals --And what exactly are these so called teleological attributes and how are they to be distinguished as opposed to mere material use ? all these things and more are merely ignored by the Author ---: the abnegation of the Material ---: and thus in doing so is guilty of the same charge he levels at his opponents, viz., that he is "Unphilosophically Limited." 

And so is it possible then that this abstract ideal desire or Use Value as contrasted with Material Use or aim can then be measured and elaborated upon in proportion to its deviation precisely from that material aim, and , ultimately in Material Scarcity ? So that the buyer's price above and over the seller's Price -- or, also, the quantitative, numerical form of demand over Supply-- is the Material representation of this Ideal:: Abstract desire (whatever may be its cause)? And the Proposition that these so called 2 attributes of Supply & Demand may thus be measured, in theory , via the collection of Data?. Well that may be so, However, first, we must properly examine these corollaries and thereby arrive at the most expedient and reasonable means by which to accomplish our aims. And Wherever our investigation leads us , it is clear that in order to even begin to accomplish this aim that we would need complete and total transparency and freedom of information so as to in real time measure supply and demand : take the example of the Fed and Interest rates; and if only then we could work together, instead of continuing on in futile private industry when all industry is interconnected and interdependent. 

    What is a world where just our bare needs are satisfied ? : where you get some slop to eat that satisfies your bare nutritional needs but tastes bad? Nobody wants to live in that world : they want luxuries : and are not satisfied with just their bare needs being satisfied . That has been the failure of a materialist - communist system : the communist materialist can only consider Needs : what is necessary to survive : and doesn’t even consider Wants and Desires to exist except as a reflection of Materialism.Well if that’s all life is , then might as well just strap yourself to an IV and become a vegetable . And that’s why you can hold a gun to someone’s head : just as you saw with the saints : and with the 80 years war as well : you can kill people but you can’t eradicate their beliefs and ideals or change them through force / materialism----Yes! They once thought they could eradicate Protestantism by merely killing everyone who believed in it…. Took them 80 years of war to realize they can’t. And no matter how hard they try : they will never be able to control and regulate thought.

    You may be able to see my search history , track where I went today : but no matter what you’ll never be able to see what I was thinking or what’s going on in my head , and at best you can only guess…..

    Well, I’m sorry but I don’t agree with or want to live in your Materialist world where people are just the color of their skin. In fact we know from idealism that color is an illusion and depending on how far you zoom in or out the color changes. Consider your television : that’s not actually the Color green and if you zoom in you will actually see a variety of different colors….. Visual phenomena is so deceptive and yet we place so much importance on it ; and if you had never touched a table before , you would probably never be able to guess how it feels just by looking at it. And Don’t think just because someone is an idealist they will walk into a moving train :

    Ideas can hurt. And also just because that table is an idea doesn’t mean it’s >my< idea ! It’s a reflection of someone else’s idea in my mind….. Expropriated....: I’m surrounded by the expropriated ideas of others. "I" myself am only an idea….. the product of many ideas …. Stemming from the formation of human consciousness …..And It is only once humanity was able to develop consciousness of itself that it was able to separate and distinguish from itself all the infinite multitudinous so called material forms that surround us today and are in a constant state of change.

    The material only exists in the “now” , just as “now” it is night : write that statement on a piece of paper : “it is now night” —true statement — check back in 10 hours and it will be a false statement. Ultimately everything that you consider real , ie the material , will resolve itself into what it truly is : Nothing : and all that will remain is the Ideal. The material world is the greatest mirage there is : you can even feel it and touch it , and yet it doesn’t actually exist…. As Stated : So much emphasis is placed on the visual phenomenon and yet how deceptive is visual imagery …. All these things lead me to believe that the material world is only a crude reflection of the Ideal:

    Here I am in my house , and yet im not in my house : who knows where I really am…. I see the visual phenomenon around me And yet because I know the visual phenomenon I see is only a mirage I’m not confined by it…. This chair is just an idea …. It might not be >my< idea per say but a reflection of someone else’s , an other's Idea…..And that’s also why if I walk into the path of a moving train : it will hurt. Because that moving train is not my idea at all : it was someone else’s idea reflected in someone else’s mind and so on and so forth.......,:

    Yep, It was a long drawn out process of someone having the idea of metal , to start with , and what metal could be used for , and this idea was gradually built upon and modified until it took the form of a moving train. And that’s basically what historical idealism amounts to as compared to historical materialism : human history is the development of consciousness and the very first idea : which gradually was built upon and took on many different variations and forms : and here we are now….: It took the development and formation of consciousness to create the external world and separate that from the internal world and into the multitude of various forms that we experience today.

    From that Initial idea and formation of consciousness we began to separate from ourselves and distinguish various so called “material” phenomenon. 

    And nowadays we can see how far we’ve come from the diversity of objects and “material” phenomenon that surround us in the present day. These were all ideas passed down to us from people who lived in the past via language, and which now today shape our experiences….

     After all what is a “Chair” without the ideal : it is still just some wood….. and so on ad infinitum…..If we take the materialist philosophy , there will never be any end and we can keep tracing the material down to increasingly tiny levels to infinity…. 1 can be divided into 1/2 and that into 1/4 and so on…. So that is to say the universe is as infinitely small as it is infinitely large….. you can zoom out ad infinitum or you can zoom in ad infinitum .

    And so, in conclusion , There is , simply put , no better indicator of danger and mental illness than someone who goes to buy an AR or who thinks they need an AR to protect themselves, or even that it ever could. .... Yes. Now we see the Value of Formless Ideas.